Showing posts with label Chris Weinke. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Chris Weinke. Show all posts

9.20.2013

Top 100 Seminole Football Players

Much like my past lists, this list is a Top 100 about the best Seminoles of all-time. This list will be based solely on their time as Seminoles and NFL accomplishments will not be considered. Deion's Super Bowl rings will not affect these ratings for instance. It is hard for some of the legends that I haven't seen in person, but this is a good list.

Again, this is based on their Seminole career, so although he may be the best player to ever wear a Seminole uniform, Walter Jones will not be a top 5 guy because he spent a very limited time with the Noles.

Also as much as I like Hopkins, Gano, and Janikowski, I still can't bring myself to put a kicker on my list. Therefore, none of those guys are included.

100. PK Sam   WR
99. Lonnie Pryor   RB/FB
98. David Castillo   OL
97. Lonnie Johnson   TE
96. Dekoda Watson   LB
95. Willie Reid   WR/KR
94. Joe Wessel  DB
93. Tom McCormick  OL
92. Ryan McMahon   OL
91. Pat McNeil   OL
90. Leon Washington   RB
89. BJ Ward  DB
88. Tony Carter   DB
87. Eric Moore   DL
86. Kirk Carruthers   LB
85. Antonio Cromartie  DB
84. Brandon Jenkins   DL
83. Bjoern Werner  DL
82. Sammy Smith    RB
81. Larry Key   RB
80. Broderick Bunkley   DL
79. Everette Brown     DL
78. Daryl Bush       LB
77. Christian Ponder     QB
76. Ron Dugans     WR
75. EJ Manuel     QB
74. Bobby Butler    DB
73. Ray Willis   OL
72. Paul Piurowski     LB
71. Derrick Gibson     DB
70. Willie Jones    DL
69. Monk Bonasorte    DB
68. Amp Lee       RB
67. Ed Beckham       TE
66. Ken Lanier     OL
65. AJ Nicholson       LB
64. Buster Davis      LB
63. Tamarick Vanover     WR/KR
62. Kamerion Wimbley     DL
61. Travis Minor    RB
60. Odell Haggins     DL
59. Melvin PearsalTE
58. Pat Tomberlin     OL
57. Greg Jones       RB
56. Brian Allen        LB
55. Ernie Sims         LB
54. Pat Carter         TE
53. Mark Lyles       FB
52. EG Green         WR
51. Danny Kanell      QB
50. Reggie Herring     LB
49.Jimmy Jordan        QB
48. Lawrence Dawsey     WR
47. Rodney Hudson     OL
46. Alex Barron        OL
45. Tommy Polley       LB
44. Sam Cowart       LB
43. Michael Boulware       DB
42. Dexter Carter      RB
41. Darnell Dockett     DL
40. Craphonso Thorpe    WR
39. Anquan Boldin     WR
38. Thad Busby     QB
37. William Floyd     FB
36. Tay Cody      DB
35. Marvin Minnis     WR
34. Paul McGowan   LB
33. Dexter Jackson    DB
32. Kez McCorvey     WR
31. Derrick Alexander     DE
30. Walter Jones     OL
29. Jason Whittaker     OL
28. JT Thomas     DB
27. Alphonso Carreker    DL
26. Tra Thomas     OL
25. Chris Hope      DB
24. Corey Sawyer    DB
23. Edgar Bennett     FB
22. Jamie Dukes      OL
21. Greg Allen       RB
20. Lee Corso       DB
19. Clay Shiver       OL
18. Jamal Reynolds      DL
17. Leroy Butler        DB
16. Casey Weldon     QB
15. Andre Wadsworth    DL
14. Peter Boulware    DL
13. Corey Simon       DL
12. Reinard Wilson      DL
11. Terrell Buckley      DB
10. Warrick Dunn        RB
09. Fred Biletnikoff       WR
08. Ron Sellers            WR
07. Chris Weinke      QB
06. Peter Warrick      WR
05. Marvin Jones       LB
04. Ron Simmons       DL
03. Deion Sanders      DB
02. Derrick Brooks     LB
01. Charlie Ward      QB

9.02.2012

I Believe In EJ Manuel

Yesterday, following a 69-3 win by Florida State, several FSU fans seemed rather upset. Judging by some of their comments you would think we had lost the game. Sure it was just Murray State, but let's take a step back for a second. Most of these negative comments involved quaterback EJ Manuel. All of those nasty comments about EJ were rather unfair.

Let's look at the facts. EJ did not have his best game yesterday.  He wasn't awful though. His record as starting QB now sits at 14-4. That track record should have Noles fans excited. This guy is the most successful quarterback by record since Weinke. Also if you want to look at accuracy, his career completion percentage is 66.1%. That percentage is best in FSU history. Yes, that percentage is higher than Ward, Weinke, Weldon, Johnson, Kannell, Busby, and Ponder. This guy can lead. If you want to look at last year, he only lost 1 game in which he was able to play the whole way through. Additionally, he played through an injury for a large portion of that season. Also for pass efficiency he is 3rd in ACC history currently, behind only Chris Weinke and Joe Hamilton. Hamilton almost won a Heisman and Weinke did.

Look, I realize the backup QB is usually the most popular person in football, but let's not get crazy here. Trickett while also capable in my opinion, cannot do the same things EJ can. Do not forget that Clint Trickett is a bit undersized and 0-2 as a starter. Do not pin that loss to Wake on EJ. He was hurt, came in late, and still almost led the comeback. There is absolutely no QB controversy. Clint Trickett is no more deserving of an opportunity now than EJ was in the Ponder years. Some of the same people begging for EJ then are now calling for his head now. Absolutely insane. I like Trickett, but it is not his time yet.

Manuel has beaten West Virginia, Clemson, Florida, and South Carolina in his short time as starter. Let's have some faith and realize he is the guy.

Do I think EJ Manuel is currently the best QB in the country? No.
Do I think he is the best player on this team? No.
Do I think he is capable of leading FSU back to the National Title? You better believe it.

Sure, FSU might not win it all. Sure they may lose a game or two. Clemson and Virginia Tech are looking very very tough. However, if they do not win it all this year, it will not be because of EJ Manuel starting over Clint Trickett. The backup will have his time and can win if need be, but to say he is better is just foolish. Let's appreciate this future NFL QB a little more than some of us appreciated Christian Ponder. I know this is not all of the Seminole faithful, but it is some. To all those that believe, keep being supportive of EJ and let him know we got his back. I like our chances this season, and EJ is a big reason why.
Go Noles!!!
-Noland

5.25.2012

FSU's Ten Best Ever

Much like with the ten best current players, I decided to post Athlon's top 10 and then my top ten and analyze the pics. Here is the article/slideshow from Athlon.

Athlon Sports
10. Terrell Buckley
9. Warrick Dunn
8. Chris Weinke
7. Marvin Jones
6. Ron Sellers
5. Derrick Brooks
4. Peter Warrick
3. Ron Simmons
2. Deion Sanders
1. Charlie Ward

Simmons and Sellers are clearly Seminole legends, but they are also before my time. Therefore, I cannot put them on my list. Simmons is probably better known by my generation as Farooq. The guy is an absolute legend, but its hard to put him in a top ten when you haven't seen the guy play that much.

My List
10. Corey Simon
9. Reinard Wilson
8. Terrell Buckley
7. Warrick Dunn
6. Chris Weinke
5. Peter Warrick
4. Marvin Jones
3. Deion Sanders
2. Derrick Brooks
1. Charlie Ward

It is hard to argue with the people on Athlon's list. They all played professionally with the exception of Ward who is one of the most decorated athletes in history. Ward decided to play in the NBA rather than the NFL. The only thing that is up for debate is the order in which the athletes appear. Like I said earlier, I could not possibly pick someone who I didn't see play that much. I left on the other 8 though and added 2.

I added Corey Simon who was the anchor of the 1999 championship defense at #10. Simon was an animal inside. It was hard to not pick Andre Wadsworth, Samari Rolle, or Leroy Butler, but I think Simon was the slightly better choice. Also hard not to put Tra Thomas or Walter Jones two legends on the offensive line on this list either. During the dynasty years, FSU sure was loaded. Simon is an FSU Hall of Famer and was a consensus All-American during the wire-to-wire season. Since that may be the best team in NCAA history, I think 3 members of it can be in the top 10.

The other player I added to my list who wasn't on Athlon's was Reinard Wilson. Wilson has the school record for sacks in a career with 35.5. He won a national title as a freshman in 1993 and is another FSU Hall of Famer. The guy had 100+ tackles in the 1996 season where he was an All-American while also recording 13.5 sacks. How many guys get 100 tackles and that many sacks?

Terrell Buckley was #10 on Athlon's list and #8 on mine. Buckley was an animal at defensive back. This guy has the interception record at FSU (not Deion) and the Int return yards record (not Deion). He was named an All-American in the season he got 12 INTs and won the Jim Thorpe award that season.

Warrick Dunn was one spot ahead of Buckley on each list. Dunn is one of my all time favorites. If this list was about that, he would come in at #2 behind only Derrick Brooks. Despite being incredibly small Dunn was the best runningback in FSU history. He played with the heart of a champion and lead FSU to several victories. Dunn was 3 time All-ACC. He's the only Seminole to top 1,000 yards in 3 straight seasons. Dunn holds the career and single season rushing records for the Noles. This guy could have easily been higher on either list, but check out the other guys on the list.

Chris Weinke was the 1st 3 year starter under Bowden at QB. He is one of two Seminoles to win the Heisman. He led the Seminoles to the 1999 title. 32-3 was Weinke's record as a starter. The guy set 26 school records. This guy could be much higher, but a lot of his success was attributed to his age and Peter Warrick. I wanted to put the guy higher because I think those are bogus excuses, but who do you move down?

Peter Warrick was right after Weinke on my list with Marvin Jones and Derrick Brooks in between on the Athlon List. Warrick should have won the Heisman in 1999. He was the best player in football that year, but the Dillard's incident cost him all of the hardware that year. #9 didn't even get the Biletnokoff for that season. He has the most touchdowns in FSU history and is only behind Ron Sellers for catches and yards. Warrick was MVP of the Sugar Bowl Championship over Virginia Tech that season though as he went off.

Jones was not at FSU that long, but he sure did make an impact. Some would call him the face of those FSU defenses and even say he is the best Seminole of all time. I didn't go that far, but I moved him up to #5 when Athlon had him at #7. Jones was a two-time consensus All-American. He also finished 4th in Heisman voting. That should really tell you how good Marvin Jones was, he almost won the Heisman as a linebacker.  In 1992, Jones won the Lombardi and Butkus Awards during that amazing season he almost won the Heisman.

Derrick Brooks was another two-time All-American. He is my favorite football player of all-time. Athlon had him at #5, but I think that doesn't do him justice. I have him at #2 and nearly had him #1. When I think of Seminole Legends, Derrick Brooks is one of the first players that pops into my head. He is perhaps the biggest reason that I fell in love with FSU football. Well him and that #1 guy. Brooks was the big play guy on the 1993 National Championship team. That season, Brooks was ACC Defensive Player of the Year. Obviously, Brooks also went on to great success in the pros, but the guy was a class act at FSU and their best defensive player of my generation, perhaps ever.

In 1988 Deion Sanders won the Jim Thorpe Award. He was also a two-time All-American. Sanders holds 7 FSU records for punt returns and INTS. Sanders is the best cover corner to ever play the game, but that doesn't make him better at FSU than Derrick Brooks. I think the fact that he played multiple sports and was such an excellent cover corner factored into Athlon's vote. Derrick Brooks was the better player at FSU. Deion was so good though that you can easily see where he finishes anywhere in the top 5. I obviously think highly of him as I have posted a few times about him. The only guys I have higher are the two greatest to ever do it.

The #1 guy has to be Charlie Ward. Ward is #1 on every Seminole fans list. This man just made it happen. He is the most decorated athlete in Seminole history. Perhaps, he is the most decorated player in NCAA history. Ward was the Heisman winner in 1993 while leading the Noles to the National Championship. Ward set 19 school records and 7 ACC records. Charlie Ward claimed 30 individual awards in his time with FSU. Everyone thought the guy was great, especially in 1993. Not only that, but Ward is the most accurate passer in FSU history to go with his run-pass ability. It would have been interesting to see what Ward could do in the NFL, but he of course chose the NBA and we will never know.

-Noland
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